3/6/09

Meeting about container show, post-Lippard

*notes Shannon took*

- Daniel needs help to get space show-ready (will be working on it all day Monday & Tues, call me 202-306-5643)

- Should we have plastic flaps in the doorway to protect work from sculpture work

- How can we light this?

- For what and how can the space be used?

- Meghan is helping to run the space and will be there to help assist and critique for the space

- Length of show? Dates? April 13th - ?

- Make the space a room/environment

- Use of materials from the container – floor, screws, rust

- Rust to print on wallpaper

- Look online about container use – livability? http://www.ucira.ucsb.edu/ContainerProjects/index.html

- Bringing back the honors blog – lets use it

- Works of art in a work of art

- Sound could be really interesting in this space

- How can we get people in?

- Make it comfortable

- Schedule for opening/installation

- How to promote? Have a bbq? Opening? Happening on campus to draw people over?

- Public/outdoor artwork outside of container to help draw people in – advertising

- Advertising should relate to the container – hand written, recycled, ships

- Context – shipping, container, shipping rating system

- Josh vinyl – recycled/waste from work

- Recycled/reused/repurposed space/work

anyone can respond here with thoughts, ideas, etc in relation to the notes above

9 comments:

  1. see, it's easy to comment here

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  2. Here are my thoughts:

    It could be cool if we used recycled objects to create a modular living space that reflects the way in which we structure our lifestyles…frameworking with cubicles, square houses, etc…

    I think we should think about the container both as a container and as an environment…’containing’ should be a theme.

    We could use paper, board, wall paper, string, to cover the walls ceiling, bring in used furniture and set up a mock living space, and then make artwork on the furniture (wrapping it, writing on it, projecting on it etc,) and make artwork to put within the environment that the furniture creates (we could use Angela’s recycled boxes as storage on a counter….like an herb rack for a kitchen, etc…)

    I want to create a string of trashed or recycled objects, and wrap a section of wall or furniture with it…then lead it out into the public space by the JC. Erin, are you down to talk about this as a collaborative thing between us?

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  3. I think Rose is on to something really cool here. I like the idea of creating an inviting space, something that resembles a 'normal' living space (although it also steps up the amount of work we have to do from individual and small-group projects to a considerable group-achievement). I think it's really key to the whole of the project to get people to think "what the fuck" and make them want to come inside.

    I saw an old-school collapsible projection screen at this thrift store in Manassas today that would be interesting to use for projection (just a possibility). It looks like something that would be used in a classroom to watch corny movies in sex-ed in the 60's.

    We could round up free junk furniture too - possibly by hitting up too-good-to-toss sections at our local dumps. Or a few of us could take on the task of creating furniture out of some used materials.

    This space could still [contain] art objects, as decorations and curiosities of course, such as Shannon's sewn-vellum window pieces.

    The hard part of this is material gathering. How and where do we find the material to cover these walls? Shannon, I remember you mentioning a website where people listed junk that they put out at the end of their drive ways?

    Thoughts?

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  4. I'm also up for a thrift shop run: Unique and Yesterday's Rose are always nice. I will also keep an eye out for furniture being tossed near my apartment.

    Is there anyone who doesn't want to do something like this, or wants to contribute more ideas?

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  5. I like the thinking generated here! Glad there's a dialogue...so what I'm curios about is, if we're creating an environment that is made of recycled goods, why are we doing this and how is it art, or how is is aestheticized to be more than a statement on recycling and sustainability. Does this enter in with the treatment of what we bring in? And where is the line regarding what is recycled vs. merely bought to outfit a particular idea? How do we treat things & space in such a way as to provoke reflection and new perspectives? Perhaps we can utilize the materials of domestic goods to transform the space, like the wallpaper mentioned, the upholstery of chairs, etc. Freecycle is the place to get free things from your neighborhood, maybe we use only that as a source??
    Also, this all needs to be presented to jeff...I've asked him to write a statement about his curatorial vision for this show and that may effect our thinking on it. (this will be posted to the blog asap)

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  6. anyone can look up freecycle.org and see if there is a group in your neighborhood. the only downside to this is that stuff on freecycle gets snatched up real quick. what i found most useful when i was making my book on recycling was to find out the trash days for my surrounding neighborhoods and then go out early in the morning and collect from peoples trash. but maybe this is more about gmu and fairfax? so perhaps the stuff should all be recycled from trash cans in a 1,2,3 whatever mile radius? making the work more about community and how a small group can have an effect on the landfill (gmu/fairfax) as well as how a small group can have an effect on prevention of sending stuff to the landfill and the way things can be reused (our honors group).
    i agree with daniel that there really needs to be an idea of how this will look - of course that can change (esp depending on what we find) but to have an idea of where we would like this to go is a good idea.

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  7. I think we only need to buy what is absolutely necessary here... lights etc. Thrift stores are a form of recycling though, and many of them benefit the community with the money they receive - so that's not entirely outside of the realm of thinking were in here.

    I agree with trying to be specific about where we get things, but that also limits my contribution a little bit considering I live in Manassas, and we tend to have a lot of junk around this city. I'm fine with a trip to the Fairfax-local landfill though (whatever I can fit in a Civic).

    Wallpaper idea: mattress fabric. I think painting our wall-covering may be a good idea too. You still get the texture, but it might be better to cover used-furniture stains and all? I guess we'll see on that.

    As for how it's art... yikes, I guess we still have to define what that is first. Because we say so, haha. I think the type of room we create, and what we name the show should interact on some level that accomplishes that needed cohesiveness for us. Any thoughts there? A waiting room for trash-avalanche victims?

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  8. Just as an added note. I live near an ex-Salvation Army building where people drop off shit all the time still, despite the signs in two languages that say otherwise. If you want junk furniture or whatever - it's right next door pretty much for me. My only limitation is I drive a small car, and my where my passenger seat would be is where a rather large speaker stack semi-permanently lives.

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  9. I think we should be thinking about how to use these recycled materials to make art, not make a "space" out of the container. I was thinking about maybe using thread from found materials to sew an iron.
    Talked to jeff today - he's installing a show and will be writing us on Wednesday.
    So far it looks like rose, Daniel, josh and myself are down - any other takers?

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